Heartsick Mom Wants Her Daughter Back
Missing people stories are as unique as they are many. And the lives that are torn apart simply by not knowing compounded by the people in authority who don't help is truly tragic. There's a great website called Peace4 the Missing that helps get the word out. It was there I found the story of 16-year-old Christina Hinderer who disappeared in Montgomery, Texas 5 weeks ago with a 34 year-old man. The following was written by Christina's mom Lisa Seltenreich. If you have seen Christina or know where she is, please let the police know or at the very least, her mother. And if you are a corporation like WalMart or McDonald's, think hard when you deny a desperate's parent's plea to put up a poster in a visable location, particularly when the missing person worked for you.
-My 16 year old daughter Christina left with a 34 year old male who was her predator on 10/7/08. I cant find her. I can find him. He runs and I find him. He runs again, and I find him again, but I cant find Christina.
-Here is a blurb I sent to someone I thought was a reporter on behalf of Montgomery County, Texas, where we live - he ended up being affiliated with the police department and stated to me that the detectives (2 of them) have worked over 400 missing persons much like mine. I tell you this so you will understand the following, which summizes my experience so far-I have redacted the detective's name because I am not certain if he is helping for real or not, until I make that determination, I owe him the benefit of doubt:
Are you able to post my child’s missing poster in the paper. It’s been a month and Det. _____ with the Montgomery County Sheriff’s department is assigned to the case. We have desperately been trying to find her and she is missing with a 34 yr old male whom is findable but disappears periodically and I am so very exhausted.
Let me give you a little background.
Christina is a child who I prayed would be a girl even though the ultrasound said boy 3 times.
She came to us a girl with the prettiest strawberry blonde/orange hair I had ever seen. Her eyes are crystal blue and they do change with her moods. If she is angry, they do get a darker blue.
Christina was born 16.5 years ago here in Houston, at Methodist Hospital. She was everyone’s prize, especially ours.
Christina was moved to Montgomery Texas because the situation at the school she was attending became a nightmare and I wanted her safe at school as well as home. That was 4 years ago.
Anyway, Christina, the day before her 16th birthday informed me she found a job. She was so excited. I was excited for her. I figured she could help pay for her car, or at the very least, pay for her car insurance. And most importantly, she would be out of harm’s way if she was earning her way. She was so proud of her ability to work.
2 weeks after her actual birthday of May 14, I held her Sweet 16 Birthday party at the Montgomery Community Center. We had a menu and a DJ and I believe a good time was had by all. She had her princess dress and crown upon her hair, which was perfected by Kim Martin, a 34 year old who developed influence over Christina while she worked at McDonalds.
Christina met a 34 year old male predator, Larry Kellenberger at the McDonalds in Montgomery. Larry somehow was able to manipulate Christina into believing he was the bomb. The one to fall in love with. He was the man of men.
Larry would go to McDonalds and sit inside this Walmart’s McDonalds during Christina’s entire shift, since he was working there when she first started and then quit. When I found out that he was giving her rides I cut him and Kim Martin off. I spoke with both of them letting them know if they ever came near my child(ren), I would be contacting the authorities.
Then I started to rein Christina’s line in. What I didn’t know, is that Larry was going to the high school every day picking Christina up from school, most often before the last period of the day. He would drive her to our home and there they would hang out until it was time for my youngest to come home, at which time Larry would leave.
Larry had intimated to another adult couple that he has intimate feelings for Christina and that when they went to the movies, they would do more than watch the movie. This couple thought Larry disgusting and tossed his and Kim’s friendship out and notified CPS – because the couple didn’t know who I was or how to get a hold of me. I was grateful.
Time went on and Hurricane Ike occurred. Recovery was shockingly slow and things were changing. Christina was terribly loving with us, her sister and I and all seemed well. We survived the hurricane and the house was still standing and just a little bit of our things were ruined. But all in all, it was a good day.
We had stayed with a neighbor who had a brick home, the girls and I were getting a long tremendously - everyone who was with us would tell you so.
Christina and I didn’t fight, nor argue much. She was sloppy and I would demand that she clean up her messes, often to no avail and Saturdays were my day to clean up after the girls.
On October 7, 2008, I received a call from my youngest daughter, “Ah mom, have you seen Chris?” I explained that I didn’t get my call from her at 2:45 nor at 3 when the bus would arrive.
I became panicked. I knew instantly that something was wrong and I knew instantly that those two people, Kim and Larry had something to do with it. They were the only ones.
I arrived home and spoke with the teenager cattycorner from our house, she told me that Christina left with that man in the blue small SUV that always comes over. My stomach sank to my toes. This man has jailhouse tattoos down his legs and skulls across his fingers. He is husky and quiet. Eerily quiet for a grown man.
I telephoned the police that moment. October 7, 2008 and reported everything I knew about everyone and everything. He told me that it takes a week before the detectives get the case. My stomach now fell out of my body and my heart sank. Anything can happen in a week.
Then my landlord called and as I was speaking with him, he told me too, that he saw Larry – describing him to a tee, always at my house when I wasn’t home and he thought he was a relative. Anxiety started building to a level I could no longer handle.
I hung up the phone, telephoned the police and wanted to make an amended report to include the landlord, and the police did come back out, this time the officer wasn’t very nice and in fact yelled at me as he really didn’t want to make the amended report.
I wondered if it was because I lived in a trailer. Surely not, I was educated enough to know that my daughter, my beautiful little redheaded daughter, missing and under the spell of this 34 year old man was missing and as time went on I realized she took our best towels, older pots and pans and a few plates and silverware.
She was setting up house. I was going to implode now.
I desperately drove around looking for her each evening as I got off of work – I have to pay the bills so I have to work – then Saturday came. I found Larry and Kim, but no Christina. The witnesses told me what the vehicle was and who she left with, I knew they have their hands in this mess.
So I built my own flyer. The detectives didn’t have the case yet, not yet at all. I had 100 color flyers made of Christina and the car and the guy. I took them everywhere. I even took them to Larry’s mother’s home only to listen to her tell me what a good boy she had and how she knew my 16 year old was trouble those few times he brought her to his mother’s home. I said to her, “ma’am, my daughter may be trouble, but she is only 16, your son is 34.”
She looked at me and then I excused myself and left. There were several places I placed the flyers, but no one but Starbucks and after much adieu, the McDonalds in the Walmart where she worked would hang the flyers in the public’s eye. They would all agree to place them in the back break room, but no one wanted to post a flyer of an “endangered runaway” on their doors, it wasn’t their child.
As I struggled through the next week with the Detective who finally was assigned the case, and then had to get up to speed, that was 2 weeks lost. The third week it seemed like we were getting somewhere, but due to the fact that running away or leaving with an adult not your family member is not a crime their hands are pretty much tied.
The detective had done pretty well for the last two weeks, now we are on week 5. One week, getting the case assigned, one week getting up to speed, another week checking out the stories of Christina’s love for Larry and Larry’s love for Christina before he would having anything to go on.
Today we are on week 5, so Dear Mr. Reporter, would you be kind enough to print my story with my daughter’s Poster from National Missing and Exploited Children. I know we live in a trailer, I know we are not rich, I know that I don’t have much money, but I also know that Christina is my daughter and she is pretty and social and has a learning disability but presents so well. Her administrators at school love her. She is so loveable. I miss her hugs and kisses.
Christina gave me a gold watch the day before she left. Our relationship, I thought, was good at that time.
I later learned that Christina and Larry were trying to figure out how to emancipate Christina by claiming abuse and no where else to go. They called the child advocacy attorney in Conroe. I also learned that Christina began telling people that I had placed her in boot camp. She has never been bad enough for boot camp. I can’t even get her into boot camp today, her crime isn’t a crime.
They also told people that I beat her all the time. Her best friend told me she called Christina a liar because she never saw bruises on her. Christina said that is because I don’t beat her and would change the topic.
Larry and Christina also told people that the reason she didn’t go with her father is because he was in a hospital dying of cancer. He isn’t in a hospital dying of cancer, he is living on 290 and Jones Road, he just won’t keep his word and come visit Christina when he says he will.
So you see, Christina is under the spell of Larry. He has taught her well. She is lost and I can’t find her. Thus, if you please will post her flyer, I will be eternally grateful. I can’t even get the billboard people to let me buy a billboard, she said it would be a waste of money.
Thank you for your consideration.
Christina’s loving and heartsick mother and sister, Mom and Danielle
-My 16 year old daughter Christina left with a 34 year old male who was her predator on 10/7/08. I cant find her. I can find him. He runs and I find him. He runs again, and I find him again, but I cant find Christina.
-Here is a blurb I sent to someone I thought was a reporter on behalf of Montgomery County, Texas, where we live - he ended up being affiliated with the police department and stated to me that the detectives (2 of them) have worked over 400 missing persons much like mine. I tell you this so you will understand the following, which summizes my experience so far-I have redacted the detective's name because I am not certain if he is helping for real or not, until I make that determination, I owe him the benefit of doubt:
Are you able to post my child’s missing poster in the paper. It’s been a month and Det. _____ with the Montgomery County Sheriff’s department is assigned to the case. We have desperately been trying to find her and she is missing with a 34 yr old male whom is findable but disappears periodically and I am so very exhausted.
Let me give you a little background.
Christina is a child who I prayed would be a girl even though the ultrasound said boy 3 times.
She came to us a girl with the prettiest strawberry blonde/orange hair I had ever seen. Her eyes are crystal blue and they do change with her moods. If she is angry, they do get a darker blue.
Christina was born 16.5 years ago here in Houston, at Methodist Hospital. She was everyone’s prize, especially ours.
Christina was moved to Montgomery Texas because the situation at the school she was attending became a nightmare and I wanted her safe at school as well as home. That was 4 years ago.
Anyway, Christina, the day before her 16th birthday informed me she found a job. She was so excited. I was excited for her. I figured she could help pay for her car, or at the very least, pay for her car insurance. And most importantly, she would be out of harm’s way if she was earning her way. She was so proud of her ability to work.
2 weeks after her actual birthday of May 14, I held her Sweet 16 Birthday party at the Montgomery Community Center. We had a menu and a DJ and I believe a good time was had by all. She had her princess dress and crown upon her hair, which was perfected by Kim Martin, a 34 year old who developed influence over Christina while she worked at McDonalds.
Christina met a 34 year old male predator, Larry Kellenberger at the McDonalds in Montgomery. Larry somehow was able to manipulate Christina into believing he was the bomb. The one to fall in love with. He was the man of men.
Larry would go to McDonalds and sit inside this Walmart’s McDonalds during Christina’s entire shift, since he was working there when she first started and then quit. When I found out that he was giving her rides I cut him and Kim Martin off. I spoke with both of them letting them know if they ever came near my child(ren), I would be contacting the authorities.
Then I started to rein Christina’s line in. What I didn’t know, is that Larry was going to the high school every day picking Christina up from school, most often before the last period of the day. He would drive her to our home and there they would hang out until it was time for my youngest to come home, at which time Larry would leave.
Larry had intimated to another adult couple that he has intimate feelings for Christina and that when they went to the movies, they would do more than watch the movie. This couple thought Larry disgusting and tossed his and Kim’s friendship out and notified CPS – because the couple didn’t know who I was or how to get a hold of me. I was grateful.
Time went on and Hurricane Ike occurred. Recovery was shockingly slow and things were changing. Christina was terribly loving with us, her sister and I and all seemed well. We survived the hurricane and the house was still standing and just a little bit of our things were ruined. But all in all, it was a good day.
We had stayed with a neighbor who had a brick home, the girls and I were getting a long tremendously - everyone who was with us would tell you so.
Christina and I didn’t fight, nor argue much. She was sloppy and I would demand that she clean up her messes, often to no avail and Saturdays were my day to clean up after the girls.
On October 7, 2008, I received a call from my youngest daughter, “Ah mom, have you seen Chris?” I explained that I didn’t get my call from her at 2:45 nor at 3 when the bus would arrive.
I became panicked. I knew instantly that something was wrong and I knew instantly that those two people, Kim and Larry had something to do with it. They were the only ones.
I arrived home and spoke with the teenager cattycorner from our house, she told me that Christina left with that man in the blue small SUV that always comes over. My stomach sank to my toes. This man has jailhouse tattoos down his legs and skulls across his fingers. He is husky and quiet. Eerily quiet for a grown man.
I telephoned the police that moment. October 7, 2008 and reported everything I knew about everyone and everything. He told me that it takes a week before the detectives get the case. My stomach now fell out of my body and my heart sank. Anything can happen in a week.
Then my landlord called and as I was speaking with him, he told me too, that he saw Larry – describing him to a tee, always at my house when I wasn’t home and he thought he was a relative. Anxiety started building to a level I could no longer handle.
I hung up the phone, telephoned the police and wanted to make an amended report to include the landlord, and the police did come back out, this time the officer wasn’t very nice and in fact yelled at me as he really didn’t want to make the amended report.
I wondered if it was because I lived in a trailer. Surely not, I was educated enough to know that my daughter, my beautiful little redheaded daughter, missing and under the spell of this 34 year old man was missing and as time went on I realized she took our best towels, older pots and pans and a few plates and silverware.
She was setting up house. I was going to implode now.
I desperately drove around looking for her each evening as I got off of work – I have to pay the bills so I have to work – then Saturday came. I found Larry and Kim, but no Christina. The witnesses told me what the vehicle was and who she left with, I knew they have their hands in this mess.
So I built my own flyer. The detectives didn’t have the case yet, not yet at all. I had 100 color flyers made of Christina and the car and the guy. I took them everywhere. I even took them to Larry’s mother’s home only to listen to her tell me what a good boy she had and how she knew my 16 year old was trouble those few times he brought her to his mother’s home. I said to her, “ma’am, my daughter may be trouble, but she is only 16, your son is 34.”
She looked at me and then I excused myself and left. There were several places I placed the flyers, but no one but Starbucks and after much adieu, the McDonalds in the Walmart where she worked would hang the flyers in the public’s eye. They would all agree to place them in the back break room, but no one wanted to post a flyer of an “endangered runaway” on their doors, it wasn’t their child.
As I struggled through the next week with the Detective who finally was assigned the case, and then had to get up to speed, that was 2 weeks lost. The third week it seemed like we were getting somewhere, but due to the fact that running away or leaving with an adult not your family member is not a crime their hands are pretty much tied.
The detective had done pretty well for the last two weeks, now we are on week 5. One week, getting the case assigned, one week getting up to speed, another week checking out the stories of Christina’s love for Larry and Larry’s love for Christina before he would having anything to go on.
Today we are on week 5, so Dear Mr. Reporter, would you be kind enough to print my story with my daughter’s Poster from National Missing and Exploited Children. I know we live in a trailer, I know we are not rich, I know that I don’t have much money, but I also know that Christina is my daughter and she is pretty and social and has a learning disability but presents so well. Her administrators at school love her. She is so loveable. I miss her hugs and kisses.
Christina gave me a gold watch the day before she left. Our relationship, I thought, was good at that time.
I later learned that Christina and Larry were trying to figure out how to emancipate Christina by claiming abuse and no where else to go. They called the child advocacy attorney in Conroe. I also learned that Christina began telling people that I had placed her in boot camp. She has never been bad enough for boot camp. I can’t even get her into boot camp today, her crime isn’t a crime.
They also told people that I beat her all the time. Her best friend told me she called Christina a liar because she never saw bruises on her. Christina said that is because I don’t beat her and would change the topic.
Larry and Christina also told people that the reason she didn’t go with her father is because he was in a hospital dying of cancer. He isn’t in a hospital dying of cancer, he is living on 290 and Jones Road, he just won’t keep his word and come visit Christina when he says he will.
So you see, Christina is under the spell of Larry. He has taught her well. She is lost and I can’t find her. Thus, if you please will post her flyer, I will be eternally grateful. I can’t even get the billboard people to let me buy a billboard, she said it would be a waste of money.
Thank you for your consideration.
Christina’s loving and heartsick mother and sister, Mom and Danielle
Holli, thank you sooo much for posting this! So thankful for your compassionate heart...And honored to have you on Peace4...xox xo
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A beautiful young girl is desparately missed by her heartsick mother. Thanks, Holliston for featuring this story. I hope that someone out there will actually do something to help Lisa instead of throwing roadblocks in her way. She deserves to know that her daughter is safe and those that she may have left with need to be prosecuted.
Shame on WalMart and McDonalds, two giants that have stepped down on one of their own. These companies should be doing all they can to be helpful.
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Exactly!
I am outraged to hear of how pitifully little anyone has done thus far to help bring Lisa's daughter home...
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Shame on Walmart and McDonalds...we need to to "blast them" with protests! Where is the ZG Army?!
xox xo
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I am so sorry that your daughter is missing. Do they not have a NCMEC (National Center) board at the Walmart? I will be praying for Christina's safe return.
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My heart grows heavier every time I read one of these stories. I still can not believe there is not a better system in place in ALL of the states to handle these types of situations. And the cops....you know, it just seems as if no one cares anymore - its just a job. How very sad.
Is there a myspace dedicated to Christina? I would be more than happy to spread the word there - I have a lot of friends in the Louisiana area....
Walmart and McDonalds should be very very ashamed of themselves. How very.....pitiful.
To Christina's mom - I am praying and thinking of you and your daughter heavily today.
Thank you Holliston.
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I am Lisa, the mom. Christina Hinderer is listed with NCMEC, Polly Klaas, Peace, Webshots-Shelterbuds, Mybigdesk, etc. I have saturated our areas and the areas of the rink-a-dink motels that Larry likes to live at. Larry has a couple of felony records: drugs, forgery, theft by check, and there is some type of prior kidnapping issue - wherein he stated he thought it was his estranged daughter. The Kidnapping issue is hearsay so far, i have no factual basis for that statement.
As for McDonald's and Walmart, Walmart finally hung Christina's poster - then took it down 11/1/08. When the poster was re-run though NCMEC, they never replaced it. McDonald's heads of state run when they see me. But Starbucks, Brookshire Brothers, Magnolia Diner and small companies are glad to help. Thank you so much for all of your kindness and support. I feel as if God has sent his team of angels and I have been placed in line to receive you.
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there is now a page going for Christina it is on Myspace www.myspace.com/christinahinderer I hope that this allows anyone who want to comment the opportunity, anymous or not for the kids. Feel free to send out to friend more pictures coming soon.
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I knew Larry in HS and and this is not out of his character.
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I hope that you will please contact authorities wherever you are and tell them anything you know. Sometimes it is just a little something that can spark a fire. If you knew this man and his character it may help push law enforcement to take things more seriously and help Lisa.
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Thank you anonymous. Delilha, the police know Larry is a creep. The problem remains that he is a creep without a factual witness other then the 17 yr old girl who saw him in the car with Christina on 10/17/08, but the police will not move on this teenager's representation to the police. Larry Kellenberger and Kim[berly] Martin are hoodlums. Not poor people trying to make it but out and out hoodlums and there is nothing that I can do to stop them at this point. In a moment, I will get tired of being nice and worrying about upsetting the flow of this sheriff's department, I may get run out of town, as they still do that in Texas, but I will find press somewhere, somehow and I will find my daughter.
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I look forward to doing whatever we might be able to, Lisa, to help sick Larry show his face and help bring your daughter home....praying fervently for the homecoming of Christina!
Sick pedophile Larry...many are aware of you now, to continue running will just further you into the sick demise of hell that you will no doubt be prosecuted and pay for...
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Spoke with Christina's father this weekend to make double certain he is aware, and he is now. He is going to help too. Christina is now an Aunt for the first time...her father's son from a prior relationship has a new baby boy. So Christina, if you see this, call your dad.
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Lisa - do you have any updates at all - as far as the police or anything. I think about Christina everyday.
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The police received (DPS - state) received a tip that Christina was at the Woodlands Mall and was seen with another person, young lady, approximately 5'4 inches and a few years (3 or 4) older than Christina.
I have communicated with one of Christina's buddies off of her myspace and she states that Christina is in the area and communicates with her friends and further told me, "no offense ma'am, but people hide her, they care about her, they dont care about y'all."
So thats the update. Thanks for asking, I am pretty exhausted.
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I know lisa and i know christina and i know that Lisa has 5 different children to 4 differentC men. Her oldest daughter emanicipated herself from lisa at the tender age of 13 because of lisa's abuse. Her only son is locked up in California for reasons unstated. She left her third child at the age of 2 and never not once ever got in touch with her until the daughter found lisa at age 18 and then shut her out of her life due to her questions. Then came Christina who was in the hospital last summer from lisa's physical rampages that knocked her unconscience. She has finally gotten away from lisa the devil in the flesh walking with you and i on this earth. Lisa has also served time for Credit card fraud and is always looking for a new scam for money and attention. Lisa is manipulative and evil and has a lot of people fooled she is a pathalogical liar and still has control of her fifth child who will soon suffer like that of her previous 4 children if she cant get away like christina did. Maybe larry keeps disappearing because anything thats happened is because of Lisa Seltenriech/Hinderer/McCombs/The other 6 alias she goes by. Not to mention Christinas dad's last name is not Hinderer that is the name of the father from the first 2 kids. Are you catching on she didnt want to look like a god digger that gets pregnant on purpose to squeeze money from men... She has also for a fact contacted her 80+ year old father to cosign on a house for her which she up and left from when people started to figure her out. Like i said before lisa is a horrible satanic being who does not deserve to have anything to do with her daughters or son and i am estatic to know that the child she claimed would be with her until she was 18 has left her in the dust. She is better off on the streets then being under the wrath of lisa.
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Welcome Jacqueline and Rebecca. Yes I had children by different men. No Rebecca didn't emancipate herself at 15 nearly 16. She punched me in my face when I was escorting her to her bedroom for cussing me when I anncounced I was going to marry. I then telephoned the police to have her arrested. When the sheriff arrived I had a change of heart and telephoned Lyla and asked her if Rebecca could come over and explained the situation. While Rebecca was at Lyla's I contacted a couple friend of mine in CA to see if they wanted Rebecca under the condition that she wasnt given privilege or anything else until she carried a "C" average. While Rebecca was living with Kenny and Cyndi, I sent a plane ticket for Rebecca to return home for the holidays and to meet her step sibblings. I waited at the airport for several hours and Rebecca did a no show. Come to find out, she went to my sister's on the east coast with my plane ticket. When Sonyia and I arrived in CA to see what was up, Rebecca said to me, Mom you ruin everything. Perhaps so. Rebecca screamed child abuse because when she hit me, I pinned her to the floor....in Texas this is acceptable .... in CA it is not. Nonetheless, Rebecca and Cyndi screamd child abuse, Rebecca was placed in Orangewood Children's home until her father could be evaluated as a suitable placement as I had falsly testified he was a wonderful father - though he never participated in the childrens lives. Anyway, after Rebecca went to her father's she ended up at my sister's house (my sister has a ton of money and privilege). Rebecca was unable to follow the rules at my sister's and was dismissed with a brand new Dodge Intrepid and $300 and told to have a nice life. What I neglected to tell you is that Rebecca was hooked up with the crips who then tagged my home after she left because her buddies didnt get a chance to tell her goodby. There are police reports and videos on file from this.
As for Jacqueline, I lost her in a custody battle, her father, a petro engineer and spousal abuser (attempted to kill me) won custody because he had the most bucks....in Texas it is he who has the most bucks wins.
As for Christina, she has never been in the hospital for injuries suffered at my hands, what she has been is a problem child since she was introduced to her father approximatley 3 years ago. He didn't keep his word when stating he would come to see her. In other words, he would tell her the old standard - Something came up. Christina would act out by stealing my car. She stole the very first brand new car I ever had in life with all of the Christmas presents in the trunk of the car. She and Destin and JUustin took my car joy riding and ruined 3 of the 4 wheels along with numerous dents. The good news is they didnt take Christmas away. After the police report was made, the insurance claim made, I found out that Christina was part of the fiasco. I stopped processing the entire legal process because I didnt want
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my daughter to have a felony record. I went and rented a car, woke up the next day and the car wouldnt go into gear. It was broken, I turned that car in and got another rental car. The next day the same thing, I went and rented another car, the windshield was broken. Christina was waiting for me to fall asleep and would take my keys and take off in the cars. She was 14 at the time. I had to file bankrupcy, I couldnt afford to keep paying her way through her problems.
Jacqueline was raised by her father from age 5 onward and I met her one time. She met my father. The reason my father sold the house is because he wanted to...not because of anything other. He made $34,000+ in profit and never returned the back child support money I used to update the house, place a new roof on, place a new A/C, place a new hot water heater and place other new appliances.
I havent seen nor heard from Rebecca in over 13 years, I met Jacqueline 3 years ago. Since Jacqueline came to meet us for a grand total of 10 hours in all, Christina has acted out. Prior to Christina's departure, she had an Art Scholarship to the NY Art Institute, a 3.5656 GPA going into her Junior Year and she was a young Junior at 16.
Whoever wrote the above is probably Jacqueline or Rebecca and Slander is a horrible thing and something that is prosecutable. I would never sue my own child nor would I abort one because I or their respective father were sloppy, I would and did raise my children to the best of my ability and with as much love as was possible.
God bless you Jacqueline for your writings, perhaps next time, you will verify your stories prior to posting. I can verify mine.
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Also, I have worked for attorneys for 27 years and supported my children on my own. The only father who has paid child support is Christina's father and that began 3.5 years ago. So for gold digging, I supported Jacqueline's father's gambling habit, and went back to work the day after I was released from the hospital after giving birth to Jacqueline, so even the engineer didnt have to contribute.
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Never been arrested for any kind of fraud. Still work for attorneys, go through stringent backround checks for all jobs, its a prerequisite to be employed in the legal field.
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I am beyond sickened and astounded to read this. It is beyond my comprehension to even think that someone could be this cruel. Beyond the FACT that your allegations against this sweet, loving Mother are completely fabricated and only exist in your own mind...
However, whyever, would anyone spew such ugly venom out publicly against a grieving Mother desperately trying to find her lost child.
Shame on you...it saddens my heart to know that you exist.
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Dirty laundry is usually best left behind closed doors for many reasons. It's not pretty to look at and it stinks. We all have some...go look!
Lisa does not have to defend her self, her lifestyle, or the reasons she has made her life choices.
She has a child who is missing and deserves the same treatment as any other mother who wants to know where their child is and what happened to her.
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This is to one who wrote the crap about Christina's mom. Check your facts I have known Lisa since her oldest child was 5 years old. Seems her third is full of hate and maybe should get some counseling this is about finding Christina. Tell me how did Christina go to the hospital for child abuse when she vacationed with me out of state, so how did mom abuse her. She raised her all her children the best she knew how and all parents make mistakes, but if they were so abused why didn't CPS take them all? J. did you know you dad beat your mom! I do! Do you know he hid you and I helped your mom find you, because it was all about control, which comes with spousal abuse.Everything Lisa wrote was the truth and I know that to be a fact, and your older sister was 16 when she wanted to stay out of state with "friends" Lisa again did the best thing for her daughter by making sure she went to live with her father not just someone who refused to follow mom's rules that the child had to have passing grades in school. What does it matter how many fathers to the children they are when none of them paid any support except for Christina's recently. If you all were so worried about her welfare then why did you try to destroy her home life! I cannot believe you said you would rather see her on the streets then with her mom. Just what kind of caring person would that make you! Just as bad a the guy who drove off with Christina. Why did you make up stuff about your mom? Jealous because you got stuck with dad. He had the money to win custody, your mom was working to support you all. Remember this is about finding Christina, so think about someone else other than your self. I tried to stay out of it but if your going to run your mouth at least know what you are talking about.
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Lisa and your family my heart and prayers go out to you! My youngest daughter went missing in Oct. as well. She returned home 6 weeks later. I do understand the heartache you have, the nightmare that you wake up to everyday and the anguish with the police you must feel! I know it feels as if your very soul has been torn from you! My daughters circumstances were much the same! She is 17, he was 27! You are right, they fall under some kind of spell, it sickens me, these perverts!! Let me just tell you a little about my story, it may help in some way knowing it is very similar. After she went missing we informed local authorities, WHY? I dont really know, I had been trying to go through the justice system for 2 years already with this creep of a human being person,but without my daughters cooperation they couldnt or wouldnt do a thing! Oh,there was a restraining order one time he threatened her life, but it had expired a few months earlier. Anyway, when she went missing I knew he was involved! We live in Fl., he had moved to KY. a month before she went missing with his family , but he was seen in the Jacksonville,Fl area the day she went missing! Well, the first officer on the case said he spoke with him and his mother by phone, then informed me that she was a nice lady and would not lie for her son!! Ha, you have got to be kidding, I thought! Also asked me what I wanted him to do about it and I quote " Drive to KY and get her!" NO, I thought, you cant even do your job here!! So three days later we drove to that UNGODLY place (even worse than here as far as police doing there jobs) just to get threatened to be arrested ( for harrassment!) for putting flyers NEAR this sick, demented, drug dealers home!( whom by the way, had a problem with us posting the flyers, and the officer knows how to tell when some one is lying!!) I personally believe the officer knew the family, surely he cant just be that stupid! After 5 days of hell and maxing out our credit cards we came back to Fl. About a week later detectives were assigned, thank GOD, I thought, maybe we will get answers now! I am really grateful to the detectives who were on the case, I really pray they were trying to help find her and that was their primary not secondary ( due to him being a drug dealer) concern! My daughter still refuses to tell anyone where she was at, and again without her cooperation the police cant bring charges against him! We dont push the issue but we have started counseling! I want to give you hope and tell you not to give up!! I was determined to find her at all costs! There was not an hour go by that I wasnt looking for her in some way! The week before she came home, we decided to hire a private investigator! We went into a lot of debt and had to rely on family but I would not stop until I knew she was O.K. Ask GOD to give you the strength to get through this, YOU are the only one that can find her! Get all info. about this man (Any way you can!)
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Thank you 1angrymom, and I am sorry that you had to walk a mile in my shoes. These shoes get tight and sometimes tired. Or better yet, exhausted. Please go read the found page, Christina has been found but with the guy (another adult male) who I thought I had chased off, much like you were stating above. You are right, running away is not a crime, this ties the hands of the criminal authorites, they cannot get search warrents, they have to do everything through a grand jury and its a tight rope walk going to the grand jury, you have to be able to address so many questions and then the minds of whatever grand jury is seated must be in conjunction with your needs.
It's not that they, the authorities, don't want to help, its that it is not against the law for a child to leave with an adult (more like a teen).
This is why I believe we must make running away a misdemeanor, Class C, so that they don't ruin their lives with a criminal record, its more like a traffic ticket, but it gives the authorities a leg to stand on in times like your's and mine.
Just a thought, but one I have been pondering since 7 October 2008, the day Christina came up missing and I ran into legal road blocks.
I know that Christina and our family will need counseling, a mediator of sorts. Christina - I found through all of this - was living two lives. A kind, loving and appreciative one at home, but in public she was damning her family and stating her father was dying of cancer in a hospital.
Of course, he is not dying and we are not abusing her.
Something else I learned is gray boundaries are truly not good ones, they need to be black and white and truly contrast.
Anyway, I will pray for you and your family with my prayers of gratitude and trudge forward until it becomes a gentle walk again.
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